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PHP Tutorial » Blog Archive » Why PHP Frameworks Matter — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:22:55 +0000

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By: Vijay Joshi

Vijay Joshi — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:55:16 +0000

I agree that frameworks do matter. Not only they cut down development time but also take care of things like data sanitation, database abstraction etc.
My advice is try and choose a framework that suits your taste and then stick with it.

By: marky

marky — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:12:53 +0000

I love the KohanaPHP framework. It’s light and you can extend it nicely.

As for Noloh, the idea seems interesting, but the fact that you need Javascript and Cookies enabled to run it breaks it for me. In my opinion, a website should be usable in plain HTML, then better with a CSS look, then add Javascript for the interface to make it even easier to use.

Going to http://www.noloh.com without Javascript or Cookies illustrates the problem. This is a simple page with a menu and text. There is no reason it would require Javascript or Cookies. Furthermore, the Javascript on this page doesn’t help navigation, it makes it poorer. I need to hit more just to see a bit more text. It would have been much better designed if I could just read it all from the get go, and faster.

Just my 2 cents.

By: kalif

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By: David Mach

David Mach — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:15:35 +0000

For everyone who need develop a complex/business application (like a CRM, ERP or accounting) I strongly recommend the Symfony framework (http://www.symfony-project.org). In contrast to other frameworks (incl. Zend) this is full-stack framework with features from enterprise world. With excellent documentation is Symfony right choice!

By: Ivan Jovanovic

Ivan Jovanovic — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:58:46 +0000

I’ve been using different frameworks during my professional PHP development career. CakePHP, codeIgnite, ZendFramework …
In general, using frameworks can give a team more power and make them able to not reinvent the wheel every time and to code while “standing on the shoulders of giants”. From the other side, this also is a treat to the development of knowledge base in the team. As much as you use a framework, you become unaware of the problems that are solved by the components of the framework. You start looking of that as abstract layer too far from the underlying principles that are masked by the framework implementation. That way, team becomes less flexible with superficial knowledge of the nature of the problem that is solved by the frameworks. Especially when junior developer starts within the team and start working with framework before knowing the underlying layers.
My suggestion is to use frameworks, wherever you find that it is reasonable that it will get you some value, but always look through the frameworks and try to learn true problems of web development problem domain. That way you will be able to compare how different frameworks solve same problems (as they all do), and eventually write your own framework that will be the perfect match for your particular problem, better than relying on some general purpose solution. Again if the value of writing it is reasonable.

Cheers,
Ivan
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http://www.bendesign.eu — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:54:32 +0000

Nice article. PHP Framework matters and every PHP developer needs to find one that works for them. Thank you.

By: Opaw

Opaw — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:39:26 +0000

Ace: What about I want to join 2 or 3 tables to get a results? Can we pass 2 or 3 tables to this function Zend_Db_Table()?
If not then it’s not flexible.