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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Role of College for Web Designers</title> <atom:link href="http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/</link> <description>Web Design, Development, and Business</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:08:48 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Jonathan Stephens</title><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-14393</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Stephens</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:05:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://buildinternet.com/?p=7635#comment-14393</guid> <description>I&#039;m approaching my final year in studying Graphic Design at a 4-year University. I can say that I wouldn&#039;t consider not attending college for Design. Sure, it&#039;s not web design persay, but it&#039;s making me a designer with the skill set and knowledge to improve all aspects of my work. College has helped me create, define and refine the crucial process of creation, allowing my work to develop intellectually and my craft to develop in my work, without the constant client-specified design elements.Not only has my process grown, but I am constantly humbled to see what my classmates have designed with the exact same prompt. I&#039;m constantly learning from my classmates and not just learning from my professors. We have learned to give honest and necessary feedback during critiques that improve our designs dramatically over its live before a final design is reached. The resources at the college are infinitely greater than I could have had at home teaching myself. We have screen printing, a letter press, a design library that puts my three or four web books to shame. The University provides opportunities to experiment in what you want to do in design as well--like a daily newspaper, university-college-club level graphic designers, contests, etc--that aren&#039;t found teaching yourself on the computer.Building connections with professors, students, and grad students is one of the large benefits. As are learning from them. So be it if I am the product of a college driven system of society. I see more benefits of pursuing a degree in Design than not and I know that I couldn&#039;t have gotten to where I am today without my professors, classmates, and my university. Design is an interdependent and collaborative world, college is a very good opportunity to begin in it.*Also, you get really nice student prices on the Adobe software, computers, etc. Pulling the student card is usually always beneficial.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m approaching my final year in studying Graphic Design at a 4-year University. I can say that I wouldn&#8217;t consider not attending college for Design. Sure, it&#8217;s not web design persay, but it&#8217;s making me a designer with the skill set and knowledge to improve all aspects of my work. College has helped me create, define and refine the crucial process of creation, allowing my work to develop intellectually and my craft to develop in my work, without the constant client-specified design elements.</p><p>Not only has my process grown, but I am constantly humbled to see what my classmates have designed with the exact same prompt. I&#8217;m constantly learning from my classmates and not just learning from my professors. We have learned to give honest and necessary feedback during critiques that improve our designs dramatically over its live before a final design is reached. The resources at the college are infinitely greater than I could have had at home teaching myself. We have screen printing, a letter press, a design library that puts my three or four web books to shame. The University provides opportunities to experiment in what you want to do in design as well&#8211;like a daily newspaper, university-college-club level graphic designers, contests, etc&#8211;that aren&#8217;t found teaching yourself on the computer.</p><p>Building connections with professors, students, and grad students is one of the large benefits. As are learning from them. So be it if I am the product of a college driven system of society. I see more benefits of pursuing a degree in Design than not and I know that I couldn&#8217;t have gotten to where I am today without my professors, classmates, and my university. Design is an interdependent and collaborative world, college is a very good opportunity to begin in it.</p><p>*Also, you get really nice student prices on the Adobe software, computers, etc. Pulling the student card is usually always beneficial.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daily Inspiration #1 &#8211; The very first! &#171; Lizzaeh</title><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-13517</link> <dc:creator>Daily Inspiration #1 &#8211; The very first! &#171; Lizzaeh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 21:56:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://buildinternet.com/?p=7635#comment-13517</guid> <description>[...] 4. The Role Of College For Web Designers College provides a unique bubble of responsibility-free time. Seriously. Think about it, at what other point in your life are you able to dedicate 100% of your focus towards becoming whatever you want to be? In college, self-improvement is your full time job. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 4. The Role Of College For Web Designers College provides a unique bubble of responsibility-free time. Seriously. Think about it, at what other point in your life are you able to dedicate 100% of your focus towards becoming whatever you want to be? In college, self-improvement is your full time job. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: مدونة قص ولصق &#171; مقابلة جماعية: نصائح الخبراء لطلاب ومصممي الويب المبتدئيين &#8211; الجزء 1 من 2</title><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-13041</link> <dc:creator>مدونة قص ولصق &#171; مقابلة جماعية: نصائح الخبراء لطلاب ومصممي الويب المبتدئيين &#8211; الجزء 1 من 2</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 07:01:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://buildinternet.com/?p=7635#comment-13041</guid> <description>[...] معظم نجاحنا في عملنا إلى الآن هو نتيجة مباشرة لعملنا خارج إطار الدراسة. الجامعة حاضنة رائعة لعدد من الأشياء غير الدراسة الأكاديمية. أقدر المدرسة لأسباب تختلف عن تلك التي يقدرها الشخص العادي لأجلها فقد ساعدتني الجامعة اجتماعيا. قام مؤخرا سام بكتابة مقال يشرح بطريقة رائعة فلسفة جامعتنا بخصوص تصميم الويب بعنوان: دور الجامعة بالنسبة لمصممي الويب. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] معظم نجاحنا في عملنا إلى الآن هو نتيجة مباشرة لعملنا خارج إطار الدراسة. الجامعة حاضنة رائعة لعدد من الأشياء غير الدراسة الأكاديمية. أقدر المدرسة لأسباب تختلف عن تلك التي يقدرها الشخص العادي لأجلها فقد ساعدتني الجامعة اجتماعيا. قام مؤخرا سام بكتابة مقال يشرح بطريقة رائعة فلسفة جامعتنا بخصوص تصميم الويب بعنوان: دور الجامعة بالنسبة لمصممي الويب. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Berthold</title><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-12784</link> <dc:creator>Berthold</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:16:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://buildinternet.com/?p=7635#comment-12784</guid> <description>As someone who has recently gone back to college to fix their education after freelancing for a couple of years, I have a mixed opinion.Clearly, your statement about teaching yourself is the dominant piece of knowledge here. You and you alone are responsible for your education, so never expect to be spoon-fed anywhere.That said, having teachers point you in the right directions (not always with the right knowledge unfortunately) is a great way to find starting points for educating yourself and your individual strengths and weaknesses. If you&#039;re lucky, you get teachers that take an active interest in your career and give you a head start. Still, never once should you believe that somebody else is responsible for your education.Mentors can be found outside of schools as well. If you are lucky enough to somehow end up working for one, you may not need a college education at all. I never found one, so I&#039;m going the safe route.Theoretically you can stick it solo from start to finish, but there is one big problem: Who will provide you with honest and professional feedback about your work? Remember that you must design for somebody else, not cater to your own personal taste. Friends and family are not a good source of constructive criticism either, as they will most likely pull their punches. I have seen a lot of wannabe-authors being ripped off by unethical publishers because they never managed to find somebody to tell them their work sucks. If ever you meet that great critic who tells you why you suck and how to improve, keep him.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has recently gone back to college to fix their education after freelancing for a couple of years, I have a mixed opinion.</p><p>Clearly, your statement about teaching yourself is the dominant piece of knowledge here. You and you alone are responsible for your education, so never expect to be spoon-fed anywhere.</p><p>That said, having teachers point you in the right directions (not always with the right knowledge unfortunately) is a great way to find starting points for educating yourself and your individual strengths and weaknesses. If you&#8217;re lucky, you get teachers that take an active interest in your career and give you a head start. Still, never once should you believe that somebody else is responsible for your education.</p><p>Mentors can be found outside of schools as well. If you are lucky enough to somehow end up working for one, you may not need a college education at all. I never found one, so I&#8217;m going the safe route.</p><p>Theoretically you can stick it solo from start to finish, but there is one big problem: Who will provide you with honest and professional feedback about your work? Remember that you must design for somebody else, not cater to your own personal taste. Friends and family are not a good source of constructive criticism either, as they will most likely pull their punches. I have seen a lot of wannabe-authors being ripped off by unethical publishers because they never managed to find somebody to tell them their work sucks. If ever you meet that great critic who tells you why you suck and how to improve, keep him.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Osvaldo M</title><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-12059</link> <dc:creator>Osvaldo M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:53:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://buildinternet.com/?p=7635#comment-12059</guid> <description>I believe the best choice I&#039;ve ever made was to study a &quot;generalist&quot; career, i studied Multimedia and although many classes were complete boredom i cannot say it was a bad choice to take such a broad approach on matters. After all, it helped me develop (most from my side than from my uni) different skills such as audio engineering, 2d and 3d, graphic design, programming, etc, which nowadays have helped me a lot in the professional side in spite of  pursuing a career as a web developer. I recommend to everyone who is not entirely sure of which career to take, to go for a generalist approach, after 2nd/3rd year you will start to intuitively go for the stuff you like the most. Then, if you have find out your niche, take short courses to develop specific skills.
And the best thing out of college, is the connections/friendships you make that will help you out once you are on the professional side, so even if it is homework, the teacher sucks and there is not a good reason to do it, do it properly, other fellow students and probably future co-workers/partners are going to be watching... It sure did happened to me!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the best choice I&#8217;ve ever made was to study a &#8220;generalist&#8221; career, i studied Multimedia and although many classes were complete boredom i cannot say it was a bad choice to take such a broad approach on matters. After all, it helped me develop (most from my side than from my uni) different skills such as audio engineering, 2d and 3d, graphic design, programming, etc, which nowadays have helped me a lot in the professional side in spite of  pursuing a career as a web developer. I recommend to everyone who is not entirely sure of which career to take, to go for a generalist approach, after 2nd/3rd year you will start to intuitively go for the stuff you like the most. Then, if you have find out your niche, take short courses to develop specific skills.<br
/> And the best thing out of college, is the connections/friendships you make that will help you out once you are on the professional side, so even if it is homework, the teacher sucks and there is not a good reason to do it, do it properly, other fellow students and probably future co-workers/partners are going to be watching&#8230; It sure did happened to me!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jared</title><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-11840</link> <dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:58:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://buildinternet.com/?p=7635#comment-11840</guid> <description>I started learning web design when I was 14 and home-schooled. Now, I&#039;m in college for Web Development Technology with Emphasis on Design. I chose a program that encompasses project management, design, programming, and business/marketing. I think it is well rounded, but being a jack of all trades... ... I like to think of my skills like those of a &quot;family doctor,&quot; who is your main doc, but isn&#039;t for everything. : )</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started learning web design when I was 14 and home-schooled. Now, I&#8217;m in college for Web Development Technology with Emphasis on Design. I chose a program that encompasses project management, design, programming, and business/marketing. I think it is well rounded, but being a jack of all trades&#8230; &#8230; I like to think of my skills like those of a &#8220;family doctor,&#8221; who is your main doc, but isn&#8217;t for everything. : )</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stanley Diaz</title><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-11794</link> <dc:creator>Stanley Diaz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 02:51:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://buildinternet.com/?p=7635#comment-11794</guid> <description>Great article. A topic I&#039;ve been meaning to hear about more.I&#039;m currently a first year design student majoring in Web Design and New Media. I&#039;m glad to hear that others believe college is a good investment.Some of my fears of attending college is that I may not be learning the skills and knowledge I really want to be learning.I enjoy the aspects of Web Design but I&#039;m more interested in UX design (wireframes, information architecture, personas, usability testing, etc), which is the field I really want to get into and not much the visual design such as gradients, drop shadows, etc (which I&#039;m doing now in school). I&#039;m an avid reader of design blogs and tutorials but most of my books are on subjects of IA, Usability, Navigation, etc.I&#039;ve looked into majors such as Human Computer Interaction but those majors require you to either minor or at least take programming classes, which I don&#039;t enjoy, except html and css.I think though that my current school is fine for now. But I don&#039;t know if after I land a job as a web designer, I can transition out of the visual aspects and more into user experience.Thanks for the article. Stuff like this is really helpful for students such as myself.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. A topic I&#8217;ve been meaning to hear about more.</p><p>I&#8217;m currently a first year design student majoring in Web Design and New Media. I&#8217;m glad to hear that others believe college is a good investment.</p><p>Some of my fears of attending college is that I may not be learning the skills and knowledge I really want to be learning.</p><p>I enjoy the aspects of Web Design but I&#8217;m more interested in UX design (wireframes, information architecture, personas, usability testing, etc), which is the field I really want to get into and not much the visual design such as gradients, drop shadows, etc (which I&#8217;m doing now in school). I&#8217;m an avid reader of design blogs and tutorials but most of my books are on subjects of IA, Usability, Navigation, etc.</p><p>I&#8217;ve looked into majors such as Human Computer Interaction but those majors require you to either minor or at least take programming classes, which I don&#8217;t enjoy, except html and css.</p><p>I think though that my current school is fine for now. But I don&#8217;t know if after I land a job as a web designer, I can transition out of the visual aspects and more into user experience.</p><p>Thanks for the article. Stuff like this is really helpful for students such as myself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 2010-02-21 Twitter Updates &#171; Josh Betz</title><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-11782</link> <dc:creator>2010-02-21 Twitter Updates &#171; Josh Betz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:10:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://buildinternet.com/?p=7635#comment-11782</guid> <description>[...] Group Interview: Expert Advice For Students and Young Web Designers http://bit.ly/dcGvK1 #http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/ &#8211; interesting #what?? RT @pathartl: .@joshbetz and his dad are awesome #Video: Hundreds [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Group Interview: Expert Advice For Students and Young Web Designers <a
href="http://bit.ly/dcGvK1" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/dcGvK1</a> #http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/ &#8211; interesting #what?? RT @pathartl: .@joshbetz and his dad are awesome #Video: Hundreds [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Group Interview: Expert Advice For Students and Young Web Designers &#124; World Wide Web</title><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-11781</link> <dc:creator>Group Interview: Expert Advice For Students and Young Web Designers &#124; World Wide Web</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 04:14:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://buildinternet.com/?p=7635#comment-11781</guid> <description>[...] Almost all of our &#8220;career&#8221; success so far has been a direct result of work done outside of studies. College is a great incubator for a number of things other than academics. I value school for reasons that are different than those of the average person. College has helped me socially. Sam recently wrote an article that does a great job of explaining more about our college philosophy in relation to Web design, titled The Role of College for Web Designers. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Almost all of our &#8220;career&#8221; success so far has been a direct result of work done outside of studies. College is a great incubator for a number of things other than academics. I value school for reasons that are different than those of the average person. College has helped me socially. Sam recently wrote an article that does a great job of explaining more about our college philosophy in relation to Web design, titled The Role of College for Web Designers. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Group Interview: Expert Advice For Students and Young Web Designers &#124; BestWebMagazine</title><link>http://buildinternet.com/2009/12/the-role-of-college-for-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-11749</link> <dc:creator>Group Interview: Expert Advice For Students and Young Web Designers &#124; BestWebMagazine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:12:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://buildinternet.com/?p=7635#comment-11749</guid> <description>[...] Almost all of our “career” success so far has been a direct result of work done outside of studies. College is a great incubator for a number of things other than academics. I value school for reasons that are different than those of the average person. College has helped me socially. Sam recently wrote an article that does a great job of explaining more about our college philosophy in relation to Web design, titled The Role of College for Web Designers. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Almost all of our “career” success so far has been a direct result of work done outside of studies. College is a great incubator for a number of things other than academics. I value school for reasons that are different than those of the average person. College has helped me socially. Sam recently wrote an article that does a great job of explaining more about our college philosophy in relation to Web design, titled The Role of College for Web Designers. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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